How to tell v from w if your first language is Chinese

For v, your top teeth rest on your lower lip and the air buzzes through. For w, your teeth stay out of it and both lips round into a small circle, then open. Mandarin has one sound in this area, somewhere between the two, so many Chinese speakers use it for both, and "vest" and "west" come out the same.

See the difference

The sound you picked: veryThe one it gets mixed up with: wetA drawn side view of the mouth, facing right, not a scan of yours. The large red shape is the tongue.

In the drawing, watch the lower lip. For v it comes up to touch the top teeth. For w it doesn't touch anything: the lips round and the back of the tongue lifts.

Try it in a mirror

  1. Bite your lower lip very gently with your top teeth. Now push air out and turn your voice on. That buzz, which you can feel in the lip, is v.
  2. Say "vvv-ery". Keep the teeth on the lip until the vowel starts.
  3. Now round your lips as if you were about to blow out a candle. No teeth. Open them into a vowel: "w-et".
  4. Go back and forth: "very, wet, very, wet". In the mirror, you should see your teeth for one and not for the other.

Pairs to practice

  • vestwest
  • vinewine
  • vet
  • verseworse
  • vowwow
Tap a dark word to hear it, in the app's General American voice. Words on the plain background have no recording here yet, so say them to yourself.

"Wave" has both, one at each end, so it is a good word to practice on.

What we don't know

We looked for a study that trains v and w with Mandarin speakers and didn't find one. The advice above comes from how the sounds are made. Since the lips and teeth are visible for both, practicing in a mirror is a reasonable place to start.

What to do next

Reading how a sound is made helps, but a page can't tell you whether your own tongue got there. In Language Boss, every sound you say in a scene is scored after the call, and you're told what it came out as. X-ray Mouth draws the tongue and lips over your own cheek while you say a phrase to the camera, so you can see what to change. X-ray Mouth is free.

Questions

Why do Chinese speakers mix up v and w?

Mandarin doesn't separate the two. Many speakers make one sound for both, often a soft v without much contact, and how it is said varies by region. In English the two sounds change the word, so the difference has to be built.

Is v the same as f?

The mouth is in the same position. F has no voice and v has voice. Put a finger on your throat: v buzzes, and f doesn't.

Say it out loud

Tell Koda what you want to do in English. He writes the scene, you talk it through, and he shows you which sounds slipped. The first scene is free.

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